In this episode, we sit down with one of YEP’s founders, Lee Krabel. He is the Senior Creative Director at SMACKSONGS. Joining him is Ryan Beaver who is a country singer/songwriter signed to SMACKSongs and BMI. Lee and Ryan have known each other for a while and in this episode their share their perspectives on industry relationships and how to let opportunities happen naturally rather than try force success and career milestones to unfold. This is a great episode to listen to in terms of hearing how a publisher/writer relationship works, what to look for when working towards a pub deal and a whole lot more.